Aloha,

We are searching for our great great grandparents who emigrated from Quebec to N Adams MA, USA.  Their names are Eugene Reno and Zoe Delcourt.  We have found that names keep changing Renaud-Reno-Reneau-Arnaud.  Eugene was born about 1840 and one of his sons Lemuel states he was born in L'Acton, Quebec.  Records show Saint-André-d'Acton, Action Vale, Quebec, Canada.  I have seen that Eugene may have had a 2nd name Ludger Renaud or Arnaud.  Our great great grandmother Zoe Delcourt also may have been Dalcourt.  She was born about 1843 and they both pass in N Adams MA, USA in 1893 and 1896 respectively.  Their first 3 sons Eugene, Lemuel and James were all born prob in Saint-Andre-d'Acton.  I have seen Lemuel name as Antoine Aime Arnaud as records all match the dates.  Please let me know, my email is jemnzs@gmail.com, thank you

Sure enough, they were married February 11^th 1861 in Acton Township, Bagot county. Parents were Narcisse Renaud and (late) Françoise Mercille, and Jean-Baptiste Dalcourt and Louise Labelle.

thank you so much!

Ludger was born september 4th 1834, baptized the 5th at St-Jacques-de-l'Achigan, Quebec.

Zoe was born november 24th 1842, baptized the 25th at Terrebonne, Quebec.

Yves

As per the 1870 US census, they had two sons in Canada.  The next one, Eugenia, was born in MA about 1865.

So, they moved in US sooner than 1896.

1870 Census, line 35 : https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-68G7-M3S?i=174&cc=1438024

Yves

thank you so much!

Narcisse Arnaud ( Renaud ) and Francoise Marcil's files are already on this site.  Here's the link:

https://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Arnaud_Narcisse&pid=1585048

Click on the  on top of file of each one to have a look at all your ancestors.

I"ll give you the link for Zoe's parents next.

Yves

Okay, done.  Here's the link for Zoe Dalcourt's parents files :

https://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Dalcourt_Jean-Baptiste-Nicolas&pid=1081726

Yves

I created Eugene and Zoe's files :

https://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Arnaud_Ludger-Eugene&pid=1832041

Yves

thanks Yves

wow thank you!!!

Hello, I couldn't Help but come accross this forum. I am a Decendent of Narcisse Arnaud (ID No: 1585048). You've mentioned he had two sons in Canada and I am decended from the other one. His name was Narsisse (Nelson) (adopted anglicanized name upon entry to USA to distinguish from his father) Arnaud dit Renauld. He was born 11 March 1832 in Joliette, Quebec, or St-Jacques-l'Achigan, Quebec. It is difficult to know which one as any later information about him came from his wife. He married Eleanor (sometimes spelled Leonnor as they never could spell her name right) Payant dit St-Onge in 24 September 1861 in Upton, Bagot, Quebec, Canada. The Family then immigrated to North Adams, Berkshire, Massachusetts, United States. Where they had my Great-Grandfather Oswald-"wally"-Joseph Arnaud dit Renauld. They then moved to Michigan 14 years after Oswald was born. Narcisse "Nelson" Arnauld his father dies somewhere around Ishpeming, Michigan. His wife Eleannor remarries 3 more times ending up in Menominee, MI. I'd like to link this information to this site as it's been useful for me to gather info on the ancestors of Narssise. I have added up to Oswald as I need persmission to add anymore info on his father. His ID No: 1833612. I would like to have permission to add this information and link him to the trees already established on here, but I am unsure how to go abouts this. I have filing cabinets of information partaining to Eleannorand her decendants and also Oswald's wife Lillian Eimile Pocan (Paquin) whom I've already added to this site and linked her to her parents, but I need permission again to edit her parents (Lillian) as I have where he died whenm he immigrated to the United States.Thank you for any information, and I applaud you all for taking the time to do geneological research.

where is id 1833612 under what name???

Oswald-"wally"-Joseph Arnaud ID No: 1833612

https://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?pid=1833612

thanks   this is confusing   ARNAUD

Narcisse m Marcil  should be continued

and then link to your Narcisse m Payant

and Ludger Eugene m dalcourt 

  both  m.   Renaud  in St Andre  Acton Vale  Bagot county

Aloha,

wow so yes, my great great grandfather is Ludger-Eugene who took the name Eugene in N Adams MA.  They emigrated around Jan 1864 to Easthampoton MA then to N Adams as they are living on the 18710/1880 census and most of their kids are born there.  The first 3 are born in Saint-André-d'Acton, Acton-Vale, Montérégie,Quebec, Canada.  I would love to keep in touch with you folks as you would be the closest to our Renaud family who currently live in Hawaii, my email jemnzs@gmail.com and we can exchange phone numbers :)

Jeff Renaud

I show Narcisse being born St-Paul-de-Lavaltrie,Lanaudière,D'Autray, Quebec, Canada and marrying Eleanor 5/7/1877 St-Éphrem-D'Upton, Acton Vale, Quebec, Canada.  I seen somewhere he may alos have been named Frank Nelson Reno / Renauld.  Nelson is Narcisse.  Our great great grandfaher had his name as Eugene Reno and the names Renaud/Renault/Reno/Arnaud are all the same family from this specific tree

Yes, That is Correct. He then moved to Michigan when their son Oswald was 14. His father was called last name Reno as Renauld was too hard to pronouce in upper penisula michigan, so I've been told. He died somewhere around Ishpeming, MI as oswald and his mother arrive in Menominee, MI and she suddenly has a new husband. I believe narcisse nelson was buried in menominee, but cemetary was moved and a middle school built on top of it. They charged a dollar to move plots and Eleanor having a new husband I guess wasn't too keen on moving him. It is assumed Narcisse nelson is either under the school or in a paupers grave in the new cemetary.    

Justin and Jeff,

I created Narcisse and Eleonore's files and linked them to their parents on this site.  I also made missing links in their ancestors.  So, you can now see all your ancestors by surfing the files.

https://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Renaud_Narcisse&pid=1833875

If you click on the    icon you see in the files, you"ll get the related act from Family Search ( wrote in French ).

Yves 

thanks Yves,   that is super

Jeff,

Only two first children of Ludger was born in Quebec as I said earlier in this thread.  The third one was Eugenia and she was born in Massachusetts as per the 1870 census for which I gave a link.

Here's the first one baptism, Eugene, on august 4th 1861 ( B-99 ) at St-André-d'Acton.  He was born on last May 30 :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99Q-4H7G?i=176&wc=HCQ8-BZ9%3A13624801%2C13624802%2C13624803&cc=1321742

The second one is Antoine Aimé, born october 9th 1863, baptized the same day ( B-140 ) at St-André-d'Acton.  I think he's the one you called Lemuel.  Maybe a wrong transcription from some census.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L99Q-4HSZ?i=284&wc=HCQ8-BZ9%3A13624801%2C13624802%2C13624803&cc=1321742

You'll notice that Eugene's last name is Renaud while Antoine Aimé's is Arnaud.  Priest are different.

Yves

thank you, I seen a James possibly born in Quebec as he is on the 1870 census and I believe he is not on the 1880 but Eugenia is so not sure where or if he existed :(

James is on the 1880 census age 15 and Eugenia is on the 1870 census she is age 5, also I seen a birth record for Zoe born 1860 March 31, she was born illegitimate lists god parents as Jean Baptiste Vanier? and Hermine Matte, baptised July 15.  I am wondering if this may be a 1st born child? can you translate the record for me please, thanks

so this Eugene is the first born and his brother Aime when he enterned the US in 1864 is named Lemuel A Rene which I am sure A stands for Aime.  He emigrated when he was 3 months to Easthampton MA then to N Adams MA.

Antoine Aime Reno married Delia Durocher on july 18, 1863, in North Adams.  Here's the link on Family Search :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FHJT-75R

Delia was the daughter of Andre and Philomene Dion.  She was born august 13, 1863, in St-Denis-sur-Richelieu.

Yves

Show me your 1870 and 1880 censuses.  And were Zoe, the illegitimate, was born ?

Yves

https://www.genealogiequebec.com/Membership/LAFRANCE/acte/5986384

https://www.genealogiequebec.com/Membership/LAFRANCE/img/acte/5986384

1880 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYB6-YCY?i=7&cc=1417683&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMHD1-CMH

1870 cesnus from ancestry

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7163/4269696_00180/33194180?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/11977466/person/242052686141/facts/citation/782078283987/edit/record

I can't visualize your link for 1870 US census.  I only have access to canadian documents with my Ancestry subscription.

I can see your personnal tree on Ancestry and we should have the same census page.  Here's the link for mine ( the family is at the bottom of the page ) :  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-68G7-M3S?i=174&cc=1438024

About the Zoe Inconnue ( unknow ) born from unknow parents.  There's absolutely no evidence that she was daughter of  Eugene and Zoe Dalcourt and the only thing she had in common with them was her first name.  I can't find any other act in Bagot county on which the name of Jean-Baptiste Vanier and/or Hermine Matte appears.  I don't think they ever existed.  Also, why her name does not appear on 1870 and 1880 censuses ?

Yves.

Here's Angelina birth record ( no. 59, april 3, 1869 ) in North Adams : https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DC67-FD6?i=926&cc=1536925

And her marriage ( no. 38 ) with Frank A. Jones in Greenfield in 1994 : https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-67KQ-YV3?i=523&cc=1469062

Yves

yes thank you, I have these

Are you able to read the childrens names on the 1870 / 1880 census?  And the Zoe I was just wondering as I couldn't read French

First, here's the french texts from Eugene and Aime birth acts.  To save space here, just copy them and paste them on the site http://www.reverso.net/text_translation.aspx?lang=EN

Eugene birth:
Le quatre août mil huit cents soixante et un, nous prêtre soussigné, avons baptisé Eugène, né le trente du mois dernier du légitime mariage de eugène renaud et de zoé dalcourt de cette paroisse. Le parrain a été Narcisse Renaud et la marraine Eleonore St-Onge qui, ainsi que le père, n'ont su signer.

Antoine Aime birth:

Le neuf octobre mil huit cent soixante et trois, nous prêtre soussigné, vicaire de cette paroisse, avons baptisé Antoine Aimé né du même jour du légitime mariage de Ludger Arnauld, journalier, et de Zoe Dalcourt de cette paroisse. Le parrain a été Antoine Vilandre et la marraine Angele Beauregard qui, ainsi que le père, n'ont pu signer.

An unknow :

Le quinze juillet mil huit cent soixante, nous prêtre soussigné, avons baptisé Zoé née le trente et mars de la présente année de parents inconnus.  Le parrain a été Jean-Baptiste Vanier et la marraine Hermine Matte qui n'ont pu signer.

On the 1870 census, I read  ( well, I had to decode names written by people who don't know french )

Renio Eugene, 30 born in Canada, Zoe, 27 born in Canada, Eugene, 9 born in Canada, Ernie ( Aime ), 7 born in Canada, Eugenia, female, 5 born in Mass., Delia, female, 3 born in Mass.

On the 1880 census, I read

Reno Eugene, 40 Canada, Zoa, 37 Canada, Eugene, 19 Canada, L. A , 17 Canada, James, 15 Canada, Carmelia, 13 Mass., Joseph, 7 Mass., Annie, 3 Mass., Angelina, 1 Mass.

You can see there's an error somewhere.  Eugenia was 5 in 1870 and was born in MA.  Ten years later, he became James born in CANADA.  Something's wrong here.

Yves

thank you!

The census error is on the 1880 one.   In 1870, the 3rd child was Eugenia ( Eugenie in french ) and she was born on august 31st, 1865 in Easthampton Mass.  Here's her death registration in North Adams in 1889 :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6LZX-GW?i=107&cc=1463156&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3ANWCY-143

Yves

thank you, I have tis.  I just had her as a separate daughter under Jennie but yes I believe you are right Eugenie or Jennie

btw I found thi birth record for Lemma Renaud?  I think they go the name wrong lol but I do believe this is another child to my great grandpa, child of they have Angell but I think it;s Augell for Eugene and Lois as Zoe.  He is a miner.  It doesn't say if the child was male or female, here it is on ancestry:

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/5062/41262_B139132-00058?pid=5691123&treeid=&personid=&rc=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Bwb5541&_phstart=successSource

family search:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6LCZ-3F?i=119&cc=1536925&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AFXZQ-V8Y

Not sure it's the same Renaud family.  Eugene had a brother named Urgel and it could be him.  Narcisse, Eugene's brother, also migrate to USA. I'm trying to find Eugenia birth record because I don't think Eugene worked as a miner. 

She was female : in the column Sex, they wrote "do" because the previous one was a female.  So, her first name was Emma.

Yves

In 1865, in Southhampton, another Renault birth ( no. 10 ) :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6PM3-62?i=58&wc=M61J-2M4%3A73566301&cc=1536925

I think that's the same couple.

Yves

ahh ok makes sense oh and btw Eugene was a miner :) he worked for the Hoosac tunnel on the 1870 census and our great gradnpa's birth record lists him as a miner as well and I'm guessign they left Canada for work like many others.  When Lemuel (Antoine Aime)emigrates to US they go to Easthampton first on Jan 1 1864 and Jennie (Eugenie) is born 1865

In 1865, in Easthampton, another Renault boy birth ( no. 10 ) :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6PM3-62?i=58&wc=M61J-2M4%3A73566301&cc=1536925

I think this could be your great grandpa's brother?  Feb 15 1865 born to Nelson Renault and Louise, he is a miner just like our great grandpa Eugene and this is where they came to from Quebec on Jan 1 1864 to Easthampton then to N Adams.  I thought it could be Eugene but his daughter Eugenia aka Jennie was born ner there in Northampton on Aug 31 1865 and Lemuel was born 10/9/1863 and then they emigrated 3 months later 1/1/1864 so I don't think this boy is from Eugene.  What do you think?

In 1865, in Easthampton, another Renault boy birth ( no. 10 ) :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6PM3-62?i=58&wc=M61J-2M4%3A73566301&cc=1536925

I think this could be your great grandpa's brother?  Feb 15 1865 born to Nelson Renault and Louise, he is a miner just like our great grandpa Eugene and this is where they came to from Quebec on Jan 1 1864 to Easthampton then to N Adams.  I thought it could be Eugene but his daughter Eugenia aka Jennie was born ner there in Northampton on Aug 31 1865 and Lemuel was born 10/9/1863 and then they emigrated 3 months later 1/1/1864 so I don't think this boy is from Eugene.  What do you think?

sorry Renee that was for Justin

So Nelson Renault is a miner just like our great grandpa Eugene and this is where they came to from Quebec on Jan 1 1864 to Easthampton then to N Adams.  I thought it could be Eugene but his daughter Eugenia aka Jennie was born near there in Northampton on 8/31/1865 and Lemuel was born 10/9/1863 in Quebec and then they emigrated 3 months later on 1/1/1864 to Easthampton MA so I don't think this boy is from Eugene but prob his brother Narcisse aka Nelson. 

of it could be Eugene and Zoe's son named James that was on the 1880 N Adams census?  I know the date has 1865 but sine he was born on Feb it could be 1866 and that may make sense but Jennie (Eugenia) born 8/31/1865 so maybe not

About your record on which you read "Lemma" Renaud :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6LCZ-3F?i=119&cc=1536925&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AFXZQ-V8Y

I told you the name was probably Emma, but I change my mind.  Make it  "Lumina".

Yves

thanks