Searching for information on Joseph Gagnon 1844-1905 possible origins in Ste Anne de BeauPre, and Chicoutimi

Moved to Peterborough Ontario by 1870

Do you know who was her wife ?  Give more infos if you can.

Yves

Yes, thanks,  Joseph married Angeline Vinette (1849-1917) in 1870, Feb 28th at St Peter in Chains cathedral (Peterborough)

Okay.  He's the one at line 11 of the  1901 Census.  Louisa, George and Hattie are 3 of his children.

Yves

Yes that is him, I know all of the descendants, I am looking to trace back  where and who he came from. My research is a dead end with him.

Why did you mentionned Ste-Anne-de-Beaupré and Chicoutimi ?

Yves

Is there a site I can see his tree ?  Or at least all his children first names.

Yves

Yes, I have found Census records for St Anne De Beaupre (can't prove it is him) and family stories claim he came from Chicoutimi.

Are you on Ancestrydotca? His childrens names were: Annie, Napoleon, Armedos, Frederick, Louisa,John, George, Hattie (my GG grandmother)

If you can send me the link for the census, then I can do some checks.  With the first name of his children, I can compare with those of Joseph's siblings.

Yves.

Yes, I can surf on Ancestry. 

Yves
 

https://www.ancestry.ca/interactive/1061/e093-e002307853/1337079?backurl=https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/person/tree/64768978/person/46128429096/facts/citation/1142130395050/edit/record

1851 Census 
Canada East (Quebec) Montmorency County St Joachim

https://www.ancestry.ca/interactive/1570/4108787_00233?pid=793867155&backurl=https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/person/tree/64768978/person/46128429096/gallery&usePUB=true&_phsrc=vlT1008&usePUBJs=true

1861 Canada East, Lévis  (right age)

Here's Angelique' baptism act ( B-96 ) at Coteau-du-Lac, parish St-Ignace, on Family Search :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L993-W7G2?i=27&wc=HCHW-N38%3A21035401%2C21035402%2C21386601&cc=1321742

There's a 6 years difference between this act and the 1901 census DOB. 

If you don't have an account on Family Search, you need one.  It's free and they don't send mails very often.

Yves

I do have an account there, Angelique Vinette Leroux AKA Angeline Vinette is my GG grandmother  and later to be Joseph's wife, her parents Angelique LeRoux and Isadore Vinette Dit Larente are my GGG grandparents

You are definitely on the right path!

Here's a  1851 Census  on which ther'es a Joseph Gagnon ( line 10 ).  He's the son of Charles and Felicite Lavoie.  He was born on January 29th 1844 at La Baie.  La Baie ( or Bagot ) is not very far from Chicoutimi.  He's the only one to born near Chicoutimi between 1840 and 1850

Forget about the one in Ste-Anne-de-Beaupré.  He was born on october 23 1843 and he got married in 1883 in Ste-Anne.

Yves

Files for Isidore Vinet and Angélique Leroux are already on this site : 

https://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?pid=308153&partID=448829

We are cousins.  Click on these Isidore Vinet ancestors : Jacques Vinet, Elisabeth Robillard, Elisabeth Daoust, Guillaume Daoust and Guillaume Daoust.  Guillaume Daoust and Madeleine Lalonde are the ancestors that we have in common.

Yves.

Hello Cousin! wow this is kismet!  I will have a look at this lead. Thank you so much for your work and interest! 

I will expand my line through Jacque Vinet and  Marie-Elizabeth Isabelle Robillard. I can be found on ancestry through my name and the Carter Family tree, does this link allow you to view?    https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/person/tree/64768978/person/422091365565/facts

Yes, I can view.  I'll search more and hope to be back soon.

By the way, did you find the family in 1881 and 1891 census ?

Yves

Okay, I found the   1891 Census.

I also found baptism act for the one you call Armedos.  In french, we say  Hormidas or Midas.  Here's the act on family search :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYWZ-Y1P?i=103&wc=M6VT-KM9%3A220998001%2C221065901%2C221077301%2C221087401&cc=1927566

Born october first 1879, baptized the 12th.

Yves

Never any luck with the 1881 census, I have a photo of the Vinettes in Peterborough in 1881 but from someone elses research. Have you had any luck finding it? Perhaps it has been destroyed 

Nancy

Having said that about the 1881 census, I did find it, it's incomplete as several families are not listed. I searched all the pages with out any luck. 

Sent you a message on Ancestry.

Yves

Bad news Nancy.

Joseph, son of Charles and Felicite Lavoie, is not the one you were seeking.  Here's the death of Joseph :

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-899Q-79NF-B?i=150&wc=HCVM-929%3A14993301%2C14993302%2C14993303&cc=1321742

We will have to search another family. 

Yves.

Sad about that news, have adjusted my thread. Where to now? I'll try having another look at the Tanguay collection

Nancy

I'll expand my search and look for every Joseph Gagnon born in Charlevoix and Saguenay counties between 1840 and 1850.  Here's a list of places and years where I"ll search :

1843 : La Malbaie,  Les Éboulements.   1845 :  Baie-St-Paul,  Ste-Agnes  1847  :  La Malbaie ( 2 ), Ste-Agnes, Les Escoumins.  1848 : Ile-aux-Coudres.  1850 : La Malbaie.

The problem is almost every boy had Joseph as a given name and we don't know if it was the only one Joseph Gagnon received.

Yves

Forget the ones in 1843.  They passed away few days later.  I've got another strategy :  1861 census for Chicoutimi and Charlevoix counties.  Looking for every Joseph Gagnon and paying attention to teen ones.

Chicoutimi : https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/fra/recensements/1861/Pages/resultats.aspx?k=cnsSurname%3A%22Gagnon%22%20AND%20cnsGivenName%3A%22Joseph%22%20AND%20cnsProvinceCode%3A%22CE%22%20AND%20cnsDistrictNameFr%3A%22Chicoutimi%22&start1=11

Charlevoix : https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/fra/recensements/1861/Pages/resultats.aspx?k=cnsSurname%3a%22Gagnon%22+AND+cnsGivenName%3a%22Joseph%22+AND+cnsProvinceCode%3a%22CE%22+AND+cnsDistrictNameFr%3a%22Charlevoix%22

Yves

Item Number: 418874 the 18 year old in Chicoutimi is looking good. But can you make out the father's name?! or the 12 yr old brother?

Nancy

Father's name is Célestin.  Younger brother is Elzeard.  Célestin married Elisabeth Girard in october 1839 at Ste-Agnes.  Elisaberth passed away in 1842 at La Malbaie.  Then Célestin married Sophie McNicoll in november 1842 in Grande-Baie.

Elzeard was born in january 1848, Mathieu in september 1845 and Marie in september 1843, all in Grande-Baie and with Sophie as the mother.  I didn't find Joseph birth.  Mother was probably Elisabeth.

Yves

Choose another Joseph.  Son of Célestin and Elisabeth Girard married Marie Bouchard in july 1863 at Grande-Baie ( or La Baie ).

Yves

when did she die? Joseph could have left and went to Pboro between 1863 and was married by 1870 ...maybe?

Joseph died in Jonquière, parrish St-Dominique :  http://bibnum2.banq.qc.ca/bna/ecivil/pdf/02C/CE201/02C_CE201S7/1913/01/02C_CE201S7_1913_085.pdf

His wife died in 1906 in Délisle, Lac-St-Jean.  Joseph was born before his parent's marriage, I'm pretty sure it's in january 1839 in Ste-Agnès.

Yves

You have been amazing and a lightening fast researcher. I am humbled by your expertise, thank you for running the leads. It is literally like an orphaned "Joe Smith".

please keep in touch, Nancy