My name is J. Young from Cornwall Ontario and I am an amateur genealogist . Cornwall is heart of Stormont , Dundas and Glengarry aka SD&G the three eastern most Counties of Ontario , and this is where the Loyalist Soldiers who served in the King's Royal Regiment of New York aka KRRNY were dis-banded and given settlement land . I have over 35 direct ancestors , their brothers and brother in laws who served KRRNY , including Pallatine Germans , Irish and Scottish . I have three lines of McDonell , all of whom emigrated [ with other members of my family tree ] from Fort William area of Scotland [Glenmoriston] on ship Pearl 1773 and settled in Mohawk Valley NY , mostly as tenant farmers on Sir John Johnson's Kingsborough Patent NY , and they served in his KRRNY . I am currently researching my Ardnabie and Scotus McDonell lines , and finding some connections to Leek , Collachie and Aberchalder McDonell lines. I now claim Spanish John McDonell of Scotus as an ancestor from his eldest son Donald McDonell of Scotus killed on August 6 1777 at Battle of Oriskany NY . My info disputes my late cousin Duncan Darby MacDonald [ noted genealogist] info regading the family of Spanish John McDonell of Scotus b. 1728 d. 1810 . Duncan Darby MacDonald found a Death Notice [ from the Drouin Collection] , written by a Notre Dame Montreal Priest [ written in French] , dated August 24 1781 for a Daniel MacDonnel who had died the day before [23 Aug. 1781] and Duncan Darby slotted this Daniel in as Donald McDonell eldest son of Spanish John McDonell [which he was not] . It is an historical fact that Donald McDonell eldest son of Spanish John McDonell , was killed August 6 1777 at Battle of Oriskany NY . Duncan Darby MacDonald was also mistaken when he slotted Alexander " Deaf Alex" McDonell b. 1761 d. 1799 [ killed by a falling tree ---- buried at St Andrews West Ont.] , as a son of Spanish John McDonell of Scotus . In a letter written in Spring of 1800 by Spanish John to his son John McDonell Jr. [ le Pret of Chute a Blondeau --- Pointe Fortune --- Ottawa River ] ; Spanish John McDonell writes that " Allick burgh the King's son killed by the fall of a tree last fall' [ last fall being 1799] . Therefore I think Alexander "Deaf Alex" McDonell is the son of John Bui King McDonell and that they shared Lot 10 Con 5 Cornwall Township [ just east of Catholic Church at St Andrews West Ontario] .

I am happy to continue conversation here or email     jyoung-young AT hotmail.com                           Cheers         J.

Dear sir,

I have found many informations for you on your family from the PRDH.   

Your ancestors, Daniel MacDonell, son of Jean (as it is written) MacDonell and Catherine MacDonell.  Daniel was 21 years old when he died on August 26 1781. He was buried on August 28, 1781 at the Basilica Notre-Dame-de-Montréal.  It is said that Jean was a captain of 'grenadiers' (grenadier is like a soldier) in the royal regiment of Nova Scotia.  

Alexander (it is written Alexandre) McDonell, son of Jean McDonell and Catherine McDonell, was married with Genny Cameron on January 24th 1765 at Les Cèdres, in the province of Québec.  Genny was from St-François, in the province of Québec.  Jean Cameron and Marie Cameron were the parents of Genny.  It is said they got 'a dispense de trois bans' from the church because they were closely related.  

On July 20th 1785, Catherine McDonell, wife of Jean McDonell, died at 47 years old. Catherine was buried on July 22th 1785.  It is said Jran McDonell was captain of the royal regiment of New York (Nouvelle York in the text).  

On January 10th 1791, Jean MacDonell (as it is written) got married with Catherine MacDonell.  Jean was living in Montreal at Notre-Dame-de-Montréal but he was from Lancaster on the Grape's river.  Jean was 22 years old and Catherine 18 years old.  Catherine was also living in Montreal and came from also Lancaster on grape's river.  The father of Jean was Daniel MacDonell snd the mother Catherine Macmillon.  The father of Catherine MacDonell, wife of Jean MacDonell, was Angus MacDonell and Marie MacDonell.  The couple got 'a dispense de deux bans' because they were closely related.  

On August 10th 1795, Jean MacDonell got married with Marguerite MacDonell.  Jean eas 25 years old and Marguerite years old.  Jean was from Glengary.  Marguerite was living in Montreal (Notre-Dame-de-Montréal) and she was also from Glengary, Ontario.  

Jean MacDonell was the father of the preceeding Jean and Catherine MacDonell, her mother.  Donald MacDonell and Catherine MacDonell were the parents of Marguerite.  The young couple got a 'dispense de deux bans' because they were related.  

On March 22th 1813, Ignace MacDonell was born at Montreal and he got baptized on March 23th 1813 at basilica Notre-Dame-de-Montréal. Ignace was the son of John MacDonell and Catherine MacDonell.  John was a laborer.  

Catherine MacDonald, the wife of Jean-Baptiste, died at 43 years old on March 3th 1813.  She was buried on April 1th 1813 at Montreal, basilica Notre-Dame-de-Montréal).  Jean-Baptiste MacDonald was a day laborer (journalier).  

Ignace MacDonald died on August 2th 1813 at Montreal and was buried on August 3th 1813 at Montréal (basilica Notre-Dame-de-Montréal).  The parents were John MacDonell and Catherine MacDonell.  Ignacew was 4 month years old.  It is sais, John MacDonell was a laborer.  

On November 16th 1818, Joseph Valade were married with Mary MacDonald,  the daughter of John MacDonald and Catherine MacDonald.  John and Catherine were living at St Raphael's Ontario.  The parents of Jean Valade were Jean Valade and Catherine Belair.  Jean and Catherine were living in Montreal.  Jean Valade, son, was a cooper.  

Donald McDonald got married with Anne McDonald on July 14th 1831 at Montreal, basilica Notre-Dame-de-Montréal.  The spouses were living in Montreal.  The parents of Donald were Donald McDonald and Mary McMillan, from Scotia.  Donald was a farmer from Scotia.  The parents of Anne MacDonald were John MacDonald and Catherine McDonald.  John MacDonald, father of Anne, was also a farmer, but he was residing in Glengarry, Ontario.  Catherine MacDonald, his wife, was also living there.  It is said on data in Scotia (Invernes-Shire), Anne MacDonald could have possibly signed Nancy MacDonald. 

On January 22th 1834, John McDonald got married with Catherine McDonell.  John was cames from St-Polycarpe and Catherine cames from  Montreal.  The parents of John McDonell were Duncan McDonell and Mary Kennedy.  The spouses were come from Glengarry, Ontario.  Duncan was a farmer.  

On March 17th 1839, John MacDonald and Catherine got a child, John.  The both spouses came from St-Polycarpe.  Catherine McDonald, the mother of John McDonald was alone.  John McDonald, her spouse, was not there.  

On September 23th 1845, Titus Jacob Webb got married with Catherine McDonald.  Catherine cames from Montreal, but we don't know Titus Jacon Webb cames from.  Titus was a shoemaker.  John MacDonald, the father of Catherine McDonald, was also a farmer but he was living in Glengarry, Ontario as Catherine, his wIfe, was.  The act of marriage mentioned the presence of Barbara Young as a wife of Titus Jacob Webb.  Barbara Young came from Montreal.  

On February 19th 1846, Mary McDonell was born at Chapeau from John McDonell and Catherine McDonell.  The baby were baptized on March, 2th 1846.  

On June, 21th 1846, Canut McDonald was born from John McDonald and Catherine McDonald.  The baby were baptized on July 23th 1846.  It is written the baptism was done in the Mission d'Alexandria in Upper Canada.  

Good research !  The data comes from the Lafrance databse in the PRDH. 

Sorry for the copy !  It always seem to me the data are not saved.  

Hi Nathalie .  My apologies for not replying sooner . This new format is NOT AT ALL HELPFUL , as I can not respond directly to what you have written , so I will respond to only the main items you mentioned . 

My email address is      jyoung-young AT hotmail.com       if you would care to contact me directly .

One of my late cousins was Duncan Darby MacDonald who filled book shelves in my local Cornwall Ontario Library with his Genealogy Books and his hundreds of Genealogical Charts . The thing is that Duncan Darby MacDonald tried to do too much and he got a lot wrong . One of my ancestors was Spanish John McDonell of Scotus b. 1728 Scotland d. 1810 buried Pioneer Cemetery St Andrews West Ontario 5 miles North of Cornwall . I am from Spanish John McDonell's eldest son Donald McDonell of Scotus killed August 6 1777 at Battle of Oriskany NY . Duncan Darby MacDonald did not know this Historical Fact about my Donald McDonell d. 1777 , so when he was going thru the Drouin Collection and found the Death Notice for Daniel MacDonnel written by a Notre Dame Montreal Priest dated August 24 1781 [written in French] who he buried that day and who had died the day before [August 23 1781] , who's father was Jean MacDonnel ; Duncan Darby MacDonald morphed the name Daniel MacDonnel into Donald McDonell , and since Daniel was aged 21 , Duncan Darby subtracted 21 from death year 1781 to get birth year 1760 , and inserted that info in for Donald McDonell of Scotus eldest son of Spanish John McDonell of Scotus . Duncan Darby MacDonald made a similar error when he found the Death Notice for Alexander McDonell son of John McDonell buried St Andrews West Ontario . Duncan Darby MacDonald knew that Spanish John McDonell of Scotus was buried at St Andrews West Ont. in 1810 so he assumed this Alexander McDonell was his son . This Alexander McDonell b. 1761 d. 1799 was known as "Deaf Alex" McDonell because he was deafened by gunfire during Revolutionary War , and could not hear the tree falling that killed him . Spanish John McDonell wrote in a letter to his son John McDonell Jr. dated 16 March 1800 , when speaking of some recently dead neighbours wrote "Allick burgh the King's son who died by the fall of a tree last fall" . I think that this Alexander "Deaf Alex" McDonell was the son of John Bui King McDonell instead .

Your translations are very good , but I will make one small correction ; you wrote Grape River , when that river then and now is known to all as the Rivier Aux Raisin aka Raisin River Glengarry Ontario . You also often mention that a person was living St Raphaels or Montreal when I think it more likely that they chose those particular Churches to Marry , Baptize , or Bury loved ones , and would travel great distances for that purpose .

Thank you very much for all your hard work on my behalf Nathalie . I hope I can return the favour sometime . Cheers      J.