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Marguerite Valiquet mother of Marie Marguerite Angelique Lefebvre de Bellefeuille
Date: 2015-04-15 14:15:00

Rosemary

This a tricky situation but I cannot find any additional information on Marguerite Valiquet. From a notation in a family book I have discovered that her marriage to Eustache Antoine Lefebvre de Bellefeuille was annulled (apparently she was a minor), obviously not before she became pregnant. Her daughter is the grandmother of my ancestress Marie Elizabeth Longpre (Delongpre-/-Lumphrey). Marguerite died in 1870, her daughter died in 1880 and it is suspected that she was born around 1818, since she was apparently 62 when she died. The annulled husband remarried and had 5 children with his other wife. The closest I have come to finding her is a possible cousin with the same name and a birthdate close to what hers might have been. Anybody know what happened to Marguerite Valiquet? Supposed daughter of Jean Louis Valiquet and Marguerite Lagault dit Deslauriers.

Thanks,

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RE: Marguerite Valiquet mother of Marie Marguerite Angelique Lefebvre de Bellefeuille
Date: 2015-04-15 19:01:00

Renee

I see Jean Louis Valiquet

married Marguerite Legault dit Deslauriers  3 feb.1800   at Ste Rose  Laval

did you verify the registers for Marguerite's birth's?

at www.familysearch.org     it is free...

who did M.Elizaberth Longpre  marry??

 

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RE: Marguerite Valiquet mother of Marie Marguerite Angelique Lefebvre de Bellefeuille
Date: 2015-04-15 19:33:00

Renee

according to a contribution on rootsweb world connect

which you probably  are aware of  already

Angelique (the daughter of Marguerite)  marrired Jerome  Longpre

26 oct 1840 Cathedral of St Jerome and had15 children

quite  facinating  items     are  also mentionned,    the link is

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=Get&db=jeannagrabuskie2&id=I55

I hope this is usefull  in your search

 

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RE: Marguerite Valiquet mother of Marie Marguerite Angelique Lefebvre de Bellefeuille
Date: 2015-04-15 23:37:00

Rosemary

Marie Elisabeth Longpre is married to Dr. Joseph Octave L'Allier, my great-great-grandfather, it was their daughter (a nun) that told her niece about the annulment. I just checke family search.org and there are only three that might be possibilities but they were from census from when she would have been 50 or 60 years old, can't be sure if it was really her.

Thanks

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RE: Marguerite Valiquet mother of Marie Marguerite Angelique Lefebvre de Bellefeuille
Date: 2015-04-16 08:16:00

Renee

thanks for  the reply

I am going to the library this afternoon I am a volunteer withthe local society

I will investigate further

I found an interesting   Valiquet site  on WikiTree  and send them a note

http://www.WikiTree.com/wiki/Valiquette-167

 

 

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RE: Marguerite Valiquet mother of Marie Marguerite Angelique Lefebvre de Bellefeuille
Date: 2015-04-16 10:32:00

Rosemary

Thank-you for your response. 

After my previous message to you I went back into family search, and went a little deeper, and I found some possible dates.

It suggested that Marguerite was born 1798, then it mentioned the date 1822 I thought at first might be a death date then I realized that I had the date of 1870 for her death. So, I thought perhaps it was date of marriage or perhaps a name change? This area also mentioned that Angelique was born in 1807, this seems too early to me because that would have made Marguerite only 9 years old at the time she gave birth.

When I checked the Submission ID MM72-W6V it mentioned that Marguerite(SY5W-C6P) had relations outside of marriage which would lead me to believe that she was not married at all, and that perhaps she was raped? Could she have possibly gone into seclusion possibly in a convent? Are there such records to find out this? There were no mention of her parents at all. 

Thanks

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RE: Marguerite Valiquet mother of Marie Marguerite Angelique Lefebvre de Bellefeuille
Date: 2015-04-16 10:58:00

Rosemary

Sorry, I'm not sure of what you mean? Do you mean the Contact us Tab?

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RE: Marguerite Valiquet mother of Marie Marguerite Angelique Lefebvre de Bellefeuille
Date: 2015-04-16 11:56:00

Denise

Good morning Rosemary,

  1. Regarding the marriage of Margaret Valiquet and Antoine Lefebvre de Bellefeuille but no date and place of marriage.
  2. You should give the full dates and locations of marriages and deaths for every couple, we will try to help you.
  3. We can find out where and would perhaps be able to guide you with the right information.
  4. My English is not very good but I am sure you will understand what I write.


Thank you

 

Denise Pelletier Michaud

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RE: Marguerite Valiquet mother of Marie Marguerite Angelique Lefebvre de Bellefeuille
Date: 2015-04-16 12:18:00

Denise

According to those found marriages of spouses' parents live in Somerseth Wi


Marriage
St-Jérôme    1863-11-23
Drouin Collection record :
d1p_00800637.jpg
 
LALLIER , JOSEPH OCTAVE
Subject
Residence : STE AGATHE
age
maj
Mar. st.
single
 
LONGPRE , MARIE ELIZA
Subject
age
min
Mar. st.
single
 
LALLIER , JEROME
Father of the groom
Residence : ST AUGUSTIN
 
BENECHE LAVICTOIRE , THEOTISTE
Mother of the groom
Residence : ST AUGUSTIN
 
LONGPRE , JEROME
Father of the bride
Residence : ST JEROME
 
LEFEBVRE DEBELLEFEUILLE , MARIE ANGELIQUE
Mother of the bride
Residence : ST JEROME

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Marriage
St-Augustin-des-Deux-Montagnes    1890-03-22
Drouin Collection record :
d1p_00061415.jpg
Consanguinity
 
LALLIER , JOSEPH OSCAR
Subject
Residence : SOMERSET WI (ETATS UNIS)
age
maj
Mar. st.
single
 
LALLIER , AZELLA
Subject
age
maj
Mar. st.
single
 
LALLIER , JOSEPH OCTAVE
Father of the groom
Residence : SOMERSET WI (ETATS UNIS)
 
LONGPRE , ELIZA
Mother of the groom
Residence : SOMERSET WI (ETATS UNIS)
 
LALLIER , JEAN BAPTISTE
Father of the bride
Residence : MIRABEL
 
MORAND , ADELAIDE
Mother of the bride
Residence : MIRABEL

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Marriage
Ste-Agathe-des-Monts    1898-02-01
Drouin Collection record :
d1p_00541330.jpg
Consanguinity
 
LALLIER , CHARLES
Subject
Residence : STE AGATHE DES MONTS
age
maj
Mar. st.
single
 
BELISLE , MARIE LOUISE
Subject
age
maj
Mar. st.
single
 
LALLIER , JOSEPH OCTAVE
Father of the groom
Residence : SOMERSET EU (ETATS UNIS)
 
LONGPRE , ELISABETH
Mother of the groom
Residence : SOMERSET EU (ETATS UNIS)
 
BELISLE , JOSEPH
Father of the bride
Residence : STE AGATHE DES MONTS
death
deceased
 
SENTENNE , JULIE
Mother of the bride
Residence : STE AGATHE DES MONTS

 

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RE: Marguerite Valiquet mother of Marie Marguerite Angelique Lefebvre de Bellefeuille
Date: 2015-04-16 12:38:00

Rosemary

Thanks, but I have all of this. The only thing in question is Marguerite Valiquet, I now think she was born in 1801 or 1798 and died 1870, she then had a daughter after her marriage to Eustache Antoine Lefebvre was annulled. I am trying to figure out whether or not she remarried and had other children. I have no marriage date or actual date of her daughters birth, I have found 1807, which would be too soon, but I believe it might be 1818, since she died in 1880, and my records indicate she was 62 at death.

It seems like every time I find information about Marguerite I am finding different information. The official info I have comes from my great-great-grandparent's (Joseph Octave & Elizabeth Marie) daughter Sister Marcelline as told to her niece.

So, the question is what became of Marguerite?

Thank-you

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RE: Marguerite Valiquet mother of Marie Marguerite Angelique Lefebvre de Bellefeuille
Date: 2015-04-16 13:24:00

Denise


Marguerite never married, the birth of their daughter Marguerite Angelique, this birth is illegitimate. bapt. 9 April 1821 , Ste-Anne-des-Plaines, Deux Montagnes.

This is the explanation of Marguerite Valiquette was living common-law with Antoine Debellefeuille doctor was therefore a very influential man I guess.
 

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RE: Marguerite Valiquet mother of Marie Marguerite Angelique Lefebvre de Bellefeuille
Date: 2015-04-16 13:36:00

Denise
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RE: Marguerite Valiquet mother of Marie Marguerite Angelique Lefebvre de Bellefeuille
Date: 2015-04-16 13:40:00

Rosemary

Thank-you for the information.

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RE: Marguerite Valiquet mother of Marie Marguerite Angelique Lefebvre de Bellefeuille
Date: 2015-04-16 13:44:00

Denise

When doing genealogical research, it is very important to consider the acts of baptisms, marriages and deaths.

A series of dates and locations unspecified events as you do, do not go anywhere.,

You give us the approximate year without specifying the location or parish where you found the information.

Sorry, but you are not specific enough in your comments.

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