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Pierre-Charles LeSueur
Date: 2011-02-01 08:37:00

Brian

wonder if you might be able to help - it centers around Pierre-Charles LeSueur     - his daughter, Marie LeSueur (m. Mathurin Lebeau on 20 Feb 1713)    - what I'm not sure about is who her mother is - I know that LeSueur married (on 29 Mar 1690) Marguerite Messier (d. of Michel and Anne Lemoine) - some data suggests that  LeSueur and Marguerite Messier had a daughter, Marie (b.21 Apr 1696) who married Mathurin Lebeau (on 20 Feb 1713)      - some new data suggests that LeSueur had a daughter out of wedlock with Marie Drouet - this daughter was Marie (b. ca 1689 / 90) - the data further suggests that it is this Marie LeSueur who married Mathurin Lebeau on 20 Feb 1713      - now I have a fair bit of data showing that Marie Drouet was born (17 Jan 1680/81) which means she couldn't have a baby in 1689/90      - a couple of people have her being born on 3 Jul 1670 and named Marie-Therese Drouet and also having an illegitimate child with LeSueur - the child was Marie and she married Mathruin Lebeau - this one would make sense but ... the least number of sources provide this info.     - hope this didn't get too confusing and that you've have some knowledge of these people         - Thanks for any light that you might be able to shed on this

Brian
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RE: Pierre-Charles LeSueur
Date: 2011-02-01 15:10:00

Yves
Brian,
You must know that when a child was born out of the wedlock,  the priest wrote on the baptism act "from unknown father and mother" or "illegitimate child".  Only the first name of the child appears on the act with the names of the godfather and godmother.

I saw very rare exceptions to that situation.  I remember one where the priest wrote on the marraige act that the couple recognize to be the parents of 3 illegitimates children.

In the case of Marie Lesieur, I suggest you get the marriage act on Family Search.
Search for and click on Boucherville, Sainte-Famille-de-Boucherville, 1696-1717 and look for image 140.  This is the last act on right page. 

You should read that Mathurin is the son of Jean Lebeau and Etiennette Lord, he's the widower of Catherine Martinbeau and he's 29 years old.
Marie is the daughter of Charles Lesieur and Marie Drouet and she's 23 years old.
So, her birth date should be 1690.

Normally, we refer to PRDH for events before 1800.  In genealogy, they are the most accurate reference.  They standardized the family names, associated them with the surnames and did the family links. So, here's what we can find about Marie Drouet.


On February 19, 1713, a marriage contract was written by a notary in which Charles and Marie are mentionned as parents.  The reading of this contract may answer to your question.  Otherwise, we can't find Charles Lesieur and Marie Brouillet or Drouet marriage in Québec.

Yves.
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RE: Pierre-Charles LeSueur
Date: 2011-02-01 15:11:00

Yves
oops, an error occurs here.
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RE: Pierre-Charles LeSueur
Date: 2011-02-01 18:07:00

Brian

Yves

Thank you so much for you efforts - can't tell you the peace of mind it gave me to see the records at both PRDH  and the Family Search (thanks for the translation - don't think I could have managed otherwise) - don't know what your family history is but I've got about 500 pages worth of info on my Mom's side (Quebec/France) - perhaps we're related - I'd be glad to email it to you - just drop me a note and I'll send it to you - Thanks again !!!

Cheers

Brian

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